Mike Huckabee :: PBS Forum Answers

Tavis Smiley asks why each candidate chose to participate and what they say to the Republican candidates who did not attend.

Well, Tavis, I want to be president of the United States, not just president of the Republican Party. Frankly, I’m embarrassed. I’m embarrassed for our party and I’m embarrassed for those who did not come, because there’s long been a divide in this country, and it doesn’t get better when we don’t show up.

Quite frankly, for a lot of people. there’s a perception that Black Americans don’t vote for Republicans. I proved that wrong in Arkansas, with 48 percent of African Americans voting for me.

But I want to make sure that the people of this country recognize that we’ve come a long way, but we have a long way to go. And we don’t get there if we don’t sit down and work through issues that are still very deep in this country, when it comes to racial divide.

I’m honored to be here. I appreciate you having us. I wish all of the candidates had come. But tonight we hopefully will make up their time and make up their ground.

Your Legacy on Race

Lucille Victoria Rowels from Chicago starts the debate by asking the candidates what legacy they will leave for Black Americans.

Well, I would say, first of all, that I would hope they would name President Eisenhower. Because he sent those troops and federalized the National Guard in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957, when it was a Democrat governor who stood at the schoolhouse door and said those young people couldn’t come in.

And I would like to believe, if I were fortunate enough to be the president, that at the end of my tenure – hopefully, eight years, by the way, not just four – that housing opportunities would be better, that we made some real strides in the criminal justice system so that you don’t have a different sentence for a 17-year-old kid caught with a lid of marijuana than you do some upper-middle-class white kid who gets caught with cocaine. He goes to rehab, and the Black kid goes to prison for 10 years.

We’d change that. We’d have a different system as it relates to such things as health care, because there is a disproportionate level of people in the African American community with hypertension, with stroke, with diabetes. And there needs to be a disproportionate level of funding to help them.

Those are the kind of things that could make a difference and end this divide that we have.

Employment Disparity

The Atlanta Journal Constitution’s Cynthia Tucker asks about employment inequity among Black high school graduates and white high school drop outs.

Cynthia, part of that is it is that there is still racism in this country, and the opportunities aren’t the same. Some of it has to do with the fact that there are people who unfortunately still look at a person’s face and their skin, and that’s something that government can’t change, but leadership certainly can speak to.

One of the things all of us need to be aware of is that there isn’t an equal opportunity for every American yet. There just isn’t. We could say there is, but it’s not true.

And in some cases, it’s because those who try to lift themselves up find that they get most importantly the heel of someone’s boot on top of their head every time they try to raise their head.

And the reason answer is to make sure that there are not only educational opportunities that bring equality, employment opportunities that ensure that people have the same chances as anybody else.

Immigration: Path to Citizenship

Ray Suarez of The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer asks the candidates if it is practical to send illegal immigrants back to their country of origin.

I don’t believe the average American resents that people want to come here. I’ve said oftentimes we ought to get on our knees every night and thank God that we still live in a country that people are trying to break into, not one they’re trying to break out of.

But securing the border is something I think every one of us agree on. You’ve got to have a secure border because otherwise our borders are not only open to illegal immigrants, but to somebody bringing a suitcase with a dirty bomb.

But, more importantly, if we’re going to deal with the supply, you touch it at the point of the demand. And until something is done to touch the people who are employing illegal immigrants because of the very reason that they’ve talked about on this stage, to create what amounts to another version of slave labor, then we’re never going to stop the flow.

You’re not going to get illegals to admit that they’re here illegally, because they’re desperate enough to do anything to feed their families.

What we have to do is to start putting the penalty on the people who are most benefiting from them, the employers who are using those laborers in order to keep from having to pay decent wages.

Jena 6 & Racial Justice

Juan Williams of NPR and the FOX News Channel asks what reform the candidates would endorse to assure that young people of color have equal justice in America’s courts.

Well, first of all, we really don’t have so much a crime problem in this country. We have a drug and alcohol problem. Eighty percent of the people who are in our prisons and jails are there for a drug or alcohol crime. They either were high or drunk when they committed the crime, or they committed the crime to get high or drunk.

And what has made a huge mistake is that we’ve incarcerated so many of the people who really need drug rehab more than they need long-term incarceration.

In our state, we established over 20 drug courts, that gave people an alternative course, rather than just putting them in prison, giving them the opportunity to get what they really needed, which is off the addiction.

We’ve got to quit locking up all the people that we’re mad at and lock up the people that we’re really afraid of, the people who are sexual predators and violent offenders.

But the nonsense of three strikes and you’re out has created a system that is overrun with people, and the cost is choking us.

I would go for more drug courts and for a lot less incarceration of drug-addicted people.

Voting Rights

Cynthia Tucker asks the candidates what they think of voter representation in the District of Columbia and rigid voter ID laws.

Well, I may be a little different on this one. I believe that the people of D.C. should be able to vote for representation.

I think that’s appropriate, for the simple reason of equality and justice. And if we need to amend the Constitution to make that possible, it should happen.

D.C. is not the same city it was when it was first created, and I think it just makes sense to not have a group of people – I don’t care what color they are, I don’t care how they vote – they ought to be able to vote, and their color and their political affiliation ought to have nothing to do with the equality that we should give them.

As far as identification – I have to show photo ID to get on an airplane in my home town. I think it’s not asking too much to make sure that people who are voting are truly eligible voters.

But look, if it’s a driver’s license issue, we’ve gone to Motor Voter – let’s have Photo Voter so, when you register to vote, they take your picture, put it on a card, and you simply are able to make sure that you’re a registered voter.

That way it doesn’t dilute the vote if a lot of people who aren’t registered voters try to fraudulently vote.

Access to Healthcare

Ray Suarez asks how the candidate’s health care plans address disparities in access to quality health care.

The first problem with our current health care system is that it’s upside down. It focuses on intervention. We wait until people are catastrophically ill, and then we spend enormous amounts of money trying to fix them. We need to be putting the money on the preventive side. Prevention is a lot less expensive than is intervention.

The second thing, there has to be ownership of the individual consumer. As long as the government, the employer, as long as the doctor is in charge of your health care, and you have no idea what it costs, and you have no idea what they’re doing, and you don’t control it, we’re never going to get the system fixed.

And the third thing that has to happen is that we have portable medical records so that your health care records go with you. They don’t stay with your doctor. You shouldn’t have to ask permission to see the records of your own body. Those are your own records. They don’t belong to anybody else.

And the policies that we can put in place have to start with individuals buying in, not only on insurance, but buying in on health, their own personal, to start with.

Iraq: Bearing the Burden

Juan Williams asks the candidates what they say to Americans that are opposed to the continuation of the Iraq war.

One of the tragedies is that our military veterans have kept their promises to us; we have not kept all of our promises to them.

Many of them have come back to be told to wait in line for their health care, to be told that mental health would be something that might be rationed out.

That’s not acceptable. And, if I were president, I’d like to see us have a very plainly written, simple-to-understand veterans’ bill of rights that would make sure that every single thing that these veterans have been promised is delivered. And it’s delivered as the first fruits of the federal Treasury before anyone else gets their nose in the trough, the veterans get their benefits paid – not on the basis of a limited budget, but on the basis of making sure that we keep promises to the people who have kept us free.

That, I believe, will help people want to be a part of the military.

Crisis in Darfur

Cynthia Tucker asks what role the U.S. should play in ending the genocide in Darfur.

I think we have some role to play in it, but I guess what disturbs me even more, we have not even addressed the genocide that’s going on and the infanticide in our own country with the slaughter of millions of unborn children.

And we also have extraordinary poverty in this country.

Yes, we ought to be involved. But you know something? There are a lot of people in America that don’t think the only poverty is in Darfur – understand there’s poverty in the Delta.

There are people who don’t have running water, people that don’t have access to medical care and don’t have a decent school to go to and you don’t have to go halfway around the world to find it. We’ve got it right here in this country.

Capital Punishment

Ray Suarez asks the candidates if they think the death penalty is carried out justly in the United States.

I probably dislike the death penalty more than anybody on this stage, but for a very different reason. I’ve actually had to carry it out, more than any governor in my state’s history. I had to carry out the death penalty because that was my job.

I did it because I believed, after reading every page of every transcript and everything in that file, it was the only conclusion we could come to. But I didn’t enjoy it.

And God help the American who somehow has this cavalier attitude about the death penalty and says they support it and they can do it. Let me tell you something from the person whose name had to be put on the document that started the process: It’s a necessary part of our criminal justice system for those crimes for which there is no other alternative.

But God help the person who ever does it without a conscience and feels the pain of it.

2 Responses to “Mike Huckabee :: PBS Forum Answers”

  1. Randy Allgaier Says:

    While I am a liberal Democrat, you might enjoy seeing my positive comments about Governor Huckabee at http://alligatorreport.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/132/

  2. Robert Burton Says:

    One of the most troubling things to me is the way that a person can honestly be pro-life as a matter of public policy while still being in favor of capital punishment.

    When I was young, I used to pray to God that I would be able to live my life without taking another’s life (or my own). Thankfully, this has come true (so far).

    I realize that there are some very bad people that we all need to be protected from. Nonethe less, we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. It is known that if a baby and then a child does not get certain kinds of parental bonding the child will grow up to have no empathy for others, and not feel the deep need to avoid causing death to other people. This lack of upbringing is not their fault, but they pay the penalty for it.

    In most countries, one of the basic ways that a country is said to respect human rights is by not allowing the death penalty even though it is popular. My personal belief is that it is an anti-deterant because by taking life we cheapen it for everyone. I also believe that we need to treat prisoners with dignity, and that they should have security, hygiene, health information. Here we glorify the lack of. A new prisoner is often subjected to the most brutal of rapes, repeatedly and from people with a high risk of HIV.

    I have always been pro-life as member of my family, while realizing that I have not walked in the shoes of those that feel the necessity to end a pregnancy. The difficult thing about this issue is that we do not really have an authoritative way to draw the line. Is a morning-after pill ok? If not should we seek to fertilize every human egg? As a matter of policy, we have to start from where we are. My belief is that Washington establishment needs the abortion issue which provides employment for many of their colleagues. As a matter of policy, I believe that it is time for both sides of this debate to come together and determine compromises that will reduce the number of abortions by reducing the perceived need for an abortion. If we all agreed to support mutually acceptable ways to limit abortions we will become a better society.

    This country is stuck in labels and the tendency to see everything as a choice of polar opposites. Pro-gay activists claim that being gay is a matter purely of heritity and anti-gay activists say that it is a matter purely of choice. Most evolutionary scientists, including me, know that there is a blending of contributions to attraction, genetics, environment, and free will. Compelling gay men to marry to cover their inclinations helps to perpetuate their genes, to cause unfair risk of HIV to their wives, and push something downward that cannot be legislated away. We expect people to respect the law. For this reason, we should not have laws that are fully unenforceable.

    Nonetheless, Governor Huckabee is a compelling candidate (what is in the water at Hope?) and would have a chance to garner many democratic votes by his practical and consiliatory approach to problems.

    In some ways, red states and blue states are as in Kings and Chronicles. The people in Jerusalem, growing rich on trade created (as all western empires do) a multicultural population that required people to respect others but the Hebrews lost their way. On the other hand, the people in the small villages who had seen little change in many years and never came across people who did not have the same faith, could not understand why large cities required different rules. They also lost their way. They began to believe that they knew God so well that only they could enter the Kingdom of God. We have been told repeatedly that God is unknowable to humans, and science has shown this to be true in very precise ways. It is a kind of heresy to be too certain one’s views, and kind of strength to use the values of the culture that has nurtured us up until now.

    Republicans talk against government spending but always increase the size of government. The Clinton adminstration had the best effort at curtailing the size of government. True the money was borrowed, but eventually government borrowed money becomes inflation which I see coming without extremely wise leadership.

    The Republican lie is that private industry does everything better than the government.

    The Democratic lie is that good intentions replace practicality. That all good people think the same way, so if you do not agree with a Democratic proposal, you are unfeeling and uncaring.

    The hope of us all, is tolerance, communication, humbleness, a desire to gladden the hearts of our fellow travelers visiting this earth, and a willingness to move forward, forgetting about horseraces and contests, seeing the difference between football loyalties and loyalty to our family, community, country, and the all of the peoples of the world.

    God bless you and give you wisdom to match your eloquence. Remember, that David was most beloved and Solomon was the reward. Solomon chose ways that were immoral and the next seven generations had to suffer self-separation and eventual conquest.

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